Haha wow, and you stayed up until the ‘wee’ hours of the morning to write inaccurate diatribe too.
The PES Casual wrote:And again trying to play victim.
Not playing the victim at all, simply noting that out of the both of us, only one is resorting to name-calling. Call me anything you wish, it only adds to the hypocrisy you display on a regular basis. You’re here to ‘kick it off’ too, pretty much everything you have done and said since you got here three months ago has been angry rants and personal attacks. You’ve been the catalyst for a lot of it and yet come accusing me
of trying to ‘kick it off’, it’s laughable.
The PES Casual wrote:You were throwing another users quotes back at them for them merely saying they had found some peace with the game. Militant, pedantic weirdness. What did you think you were trying to prove there? What was the purpose of that exactly? Were you trying to "out" him or something?
I was simply asking what was meant by your discussion, as it read to me that there was a suggestion that we should just accept it for what it is as nobody listens anyway. If that’s how you feel then great, but I personally wish to discuss what I dislike about the game and believe feedback should continue to be given.
The PES Casual wrote:You and others aren't aware but you are out of touch and don't get listened to for a reason. You hold no higher knowledge and can't even claim to have higher standards.
Not once have I claimed to hold a higher knowledge or have higher standards than any other poster in here, so that’s utter tripe.
The PES Casual wrote:You and others like you are narrow-minded and have completely lost the plot now.
Safe to say that you’re the only one round here who has lost the plot. I don’t think you’ve ever had the plot in your short time here, as documented by your numerous meltdowns.
The PES Casual wrote:Do you want to know why forums are dying? It ain't no reflection of the game but you and others are too blinkered in your belief that is the case to realuse that it just isn't how these games are discussed any longer. People operate in smaller communities now. Communities within communities. They pursue their own endeavours like PEN, FUMA and alike. There are PES/FIFA communities that operate within actual football forums and other groups on other social media platforms. There are micro-communities that utilise main hubs for some assets and maybe news. You don't even see them.
I don’t doubt that there are micro-communities as you describe them, but if you genuinely believe that the reason for the lack of traffic on here and other forums is nothing to do with the game then I reckon you’d defend Konami to the death. I guess the Footy United people are just moving their stuff to a micro-community, yeah?
I find it equally astounding and hilarious that you absolutely refuse to attribute any of it to the game having regressed and being less popular than it once was. That
is narrow-minded and borders on fanboy-ism, although I very much dislike the term.
The PES Casual wrote:People are bored of the analytical echo chamber and its cult of personality. They are done with being spoken down to by rabid, militant assholes on the search for their own wee shill.
As opposed to listening to “rabid, militant assholes” who appoint themselves as a shill?
The PES Casual wrote:These games have been knocking about for decades and folk know what they want, know what they like/dislike and also know what they are willing to put up with.
Good for them, I also know this too and know what I’m willing to put up with. I’ve been a staunch supporter of the games, just like everyone else, for many years now. Last few years I’ve played FIFA more, this year is the least I’ve played PES but that isn’t to say I’ve not done.
The PES Casual wrote:You and others like you can't appreciate that fact; utterly blind to it so you use these wee safe spaces to bitch and whine about them
I can completely appreciate it and I’ve not told anyone to stop discussing the game. More tripe.
The PES Casual wrote:while dreaming up nonsensical conpspiracies about individual employees of a company or the entire corporation itself.
Nope, not me. You show me something I’ve suggested that can genuinely be described as a ‘conspiracy theory’ outside of your hysterics.
The PES Casual wrote:Maybe you will go down new exciting rabbit-holes like what is going on with a gif for an 8 month old game on the games twitter feed
I think some of the gifs they share look like shite; I brought this up in a PES discussion thread.
As I said at the time, if you don’t think those gifs are posted as an advert for the game, then you’re
The PES Casual wrote:or how an employee tweeted something in the midst of one of the craziest, fun and exciting midweeks of top-flight European football in years and you think he was having a go at your wee group! Lol, that was a damn high jumping of the shark by some very joyless people.
Not me again.
The PES Casual wrote:
And you or others dare wonder why things are a bit quiet on forums, or why you continue to find yourselves getting ignored? You's serious? Jesus christ
It's quiet because if they do look in they see nik quoting some dudes posts back at him because his position on a videogame changed a wee bit, or read philla go off on one about how mature and real a player he is, or how Mutu has found a hidden critique of him in a tweet from a dude who doesn't even know Mutu feckin' exists.
I thought you were here to be the saviour of this forum (that nobody asked for)? How’s that working out for you?
The PES Casual wrote:Absolute nut-bars.
The PES Casual wrote:You's are finished as a movement on this game and the other one.
There is no “movement”; you don’t half get hysterical. A group of people who have gripes with a game are discussing those gripes in a discussion thread about the game. Nobody asked you to try and police these forums.
If people want to continue to discuss what they enjoy about the game then by all means do so, you won’t find me telling them to stop.
The PES Casual wrote:Completely devoured by football culture and you didn't see it coming because you foolishly thought there was only one strict template that needs adhering to when it comes to a football game: yours. Problem is it is dull, boring and runs cometely counter as to why folk love the sport.
I don’t have a ‘strict template’, I simply want a football game that is played in real life to be replicated. I want more fouls, I want defenders to not run away from my advancing player and I want a ML/career mode that is immersive and embraces the football culture you think we’re all out of touch from.
The PES Casual wrote:You don't partake in wider football culture. You're not living it. The nearest you and your lot get to football culture is talk of Sky Sports scoreboards and sliders in a football game, after an afternoon on an armchair watching some games.
I’ve travelled the length and breadth of this country watching League One; League Two; Conference National and Conference North football. You’re literally making stuff up to suit your argument.
The PES Casual wrote:You take it all too seriously which again runs counter to the spirit of why the masses love the sport at its core: because it is accessible and is relatable. The reason folks play the sport is to enjoy. It wouldn't be the most popular sport on the planet if it wasn't accessible and fun. It wouldn't be the sport it is if it weren't for the diversity. People play the sport because they enjoy trying stuff as well as enjoying competing. They attend matches, I attend matches, because although I seriously want my team to get a result I enjoy the social aspect. I enjoy so much around the event. Folk travel the world to take in as much in tge way of differing football cultures as they can before shuffling off.
So do I. This adds nothing to your argument.
The PES Casual wrote:Why do some folk support or even just prefer watching Shrewsbury while many more would rather watch Barca? Who are the bigger fans of the sport between those two groups? What group is the more knowledgable about the sport? You can't answer that as much as you can't answer why some folk prefer FIFA over PES or vice versa. You can't answer that much like you couldn't explain why maybe some dude might still think SWOS or Kick-Off were the best football games ever made, even to this day, but is a tactical genius on the real sport. You wouldn't be able to process that because you and your likes are so painfully narrow-minded. Thing is I fully expect one of you deeply analytical, highly intelligent clowns to try and offer an answer to those questions and would succeed in only highlighting further how dettached from reality and wider football culture you really are.
Again more made up tripe. You’ve decided I’m detached from ‘wider football culture’ when you know absolutely nothing about me other than some words on an internet forum. Dare I say, all this is simply just confirmation bias
The PES Casual wrote:Less and less care for your or others idea of "simulation" because it is completely joyless as well as being dettached from the reality.
I want a football game with fouls in it. Is that ‘detached from reality’?
The PES Casual wrote:You think you are being on point but you ain't. You miss most of it all out getting bogged down in positioning, broadcast assets, sliders and bespoke buttons for "driven" passes.
I discussed driven passes at length as I’d like to see a simple modifier in the game for it where you have complete control on whether you play one or not, a la FIFA. You’re getting incredibly hysterical again.
The PES Casual wrote:You see more than three short one-touch passes and you start freaking out and start talking about deleting hard-drives.
Not me, again.
The PES Casual wrote:You don't know the sport because it seems like you just haven't kicked a ball about enough. You think the sport can only be played by super-athletes. You try to take tv style analysis and apply it to a videogame. Again, you are not operating in a reality that appreciates the sport in full, just the televised, packaged version. You (and others) just don't get football. Period. It certainly comes across like that.
More made-up bullshit to suit your argument. You’ve decided we don’t “get” football because our views don’t match yours. I suppose you
“get” football, don’t you?
The PES Casual wrote:That is why you get ignored and that is why you get more intolerant and militant as a result.
You talk about being militant, however we’ve all seen your front page posts talking about ‘elitism’ and we’ve all seen your angry rants against many a person you disagree with.
I’m not intolerant of anyone, solely because they like this game. You won’t find a single shred of evidence to support that argument either.
The PES Casual wrote:You aren't embracing of football culture. You are anti-football.
Again, more made up shite.
Let’s have a look at your post from yesterday where you suggested what I could do with my time if I didn’t like the game, and flip it to see how your post above fits in:
The PES Casual wrote:Dunno. 'Spose you could spend time wildly speculating on that thing you don't enjoy, or maybe even be condescending and/or pedantic towards those who do enjoy it in spite of their own issues with it. You could maybe even put yourself and others like you on a pedestal; claim those who do enjoy a videogame know nothing about the sport it relates to; take issue with their choice of controls; reason that anyone who disagrees with you on some things (even if there is agreement elsewhere) must be 12; assert anyone who does like the game (with caveats) is a corporate shill. Y'know, real level headed and intelligent shiz like that.
Plenty of that, talking about people’s involvement in ‘football culture’ with absolutely nothing to back it up.Condescending towards people who don’t enjoy it:
Plenty of that, you
know more about football culture, we
don’t.Putting yourself or others on a pedestal:
Similar to the above, but your entire existence in this forum is based on putting yourself on a pedestal when you appointed yourself as a ‘Community Representative’ entirely off your own back. You’re the epitomy of putting yourself on a pedestal.Claiming those who don’t enjoy a videogame know nothing about the sport it relates to:
Your entire post is based on this.Take issue with their choice of controls:
don’t like me wanting a simpler command for ‘driven’ passes, like the competitor does, do you?Reason that anyone disagrees with you on somethings must be 12:
You’ve gone further and suggested they have mental health issues.Assert that anyone who doesn’t like the game is a shill:
You’ve done that too.
Everything you accuse others of, you do yourself and then some.